Really nice tune this! I screwed up a bit at the end, but I guess that is the honest version of how I play. I thought the disscussion of 'finishing' songs a 100 percent (in another thread) was point on for many of us! 🙂
Thanks for this lesson, what an awesome riff to play! I decided to give this a go in a speed above my comfort level, but hope I still maintain the energy although it's a bit sloppy here and there. Took your advice on sometimes playing 'too fast', but trying to maintain a relaxed pick motion. I have used metronome in rehersals, for gaining speed and coordinating right hand (which was challenging on this one!). Any comments?
Thanks for this lesson, learning some Tony Rice-crosspicking is really great. One question, is the sweeping (down-down) supposed to be played as rest strokes or can I play with a normal picking motion?
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Here's my attempt, I appreciate if you have some feedback on the video 🙂 Torgeir
Hey Torgeir! Sweet singing on here! It seems that the beginning of the video may be slightly cut off (?) but even so it sounds like you are cutting a beat or two off of the phrase lengths. Take a look at how I'm doing the intro again, particularly the timing of when the chords are changing. That said, your flow on those parts in terms of how you are playing the guitar and the groove is really nice!
One other thing to mention, under your singing try strumming the back beats a little less. Listen to Tony in particular for this - he is SUCH A MASTER at rhythm guitar and accompanying himself. The main point is that he is hitting the bass notes and occasionally strumming in between, but he often plays little crosspicked fills instead of the strum. It's a nuanced thing, but it might give the sound a bit of variety.Â
Check out carter-style, where you strum lightly on the brightest (maybe two, three our four of them, I'm not sure what is the ''right way'), between the melody/flatpicking. Seems like a good way' for you since you got the melody good! Left hand doing exactly the same.
Hey Chris! Cool lesson and very fun song to sing along to. Here's my try on it with an attempt to make some ideas on soloing (parts I have used from your lesson also).Â
Torgeir, cool hearing your take on this song! You're playing some of the chords a little differently than I do, but it all sounds good and musical. The spot that stuck out to me the most was when your solo started. At that moment the song lost a bit of momentum. I really liked the composition of the solo and all of the notes and melodies that you chose, but make sure that the forward momentum and energy that you have when you are playing rhythm and singing doesn't get fall too far behind.Â
Thanks so much for these lessons, really cool learning about arpeggios! This is my try on jessamyn's reel, a lovely tune (congratulations on the grammy also). Realize this needs some more practize to be finished, some of the parts are challenging. Looking forward to it though!
I don't know if this is relevant, but do you notice that your index finger is all the way up on your sixht string? Maybe if you place your index on your bass notes (b and c# instead of f# and g#), the strecht becomes easier? Maybe this is wrong, but it's a suggestion :)
hello Chris and happy new year! I've just finished one year on SJ and have just renewed for a year more. Really feel this is helping, especially with right hand-teqhnique which has been a main focus for me this year.
Here is banks of ohio, thanks for a beautiful crosspicking arrangement.
I'm not very good at questions about guitar repair. So I can only qoute what has been Said to me. If anybody has the knowledge, please correct me! And excuse my english.
1) My guitar is all made of wood (cheaper guitars often have parts which is not). Wood is alive material and will move alot, especially the first years. The wood is not used to being guitar shaped, and needs some time to stabilaze. The action (string height) on my guitar got waay higher after a year or so.
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2) norway has got cold winters, which means the air inside our houses will become dry because we heat it up. The difference between summer and winter is huge. I use humidifier from october till may and exhange between summer and winter saddle (I think that's the name). Had to make a right saddle for my guitar based on how it reacts on summer vs winter air.
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Correct if that doesn't make sense at all. Based on what I have been told I Hope it Will be more stabile when the wood it's used to the climate and to actually be a guitar. Interesting topic, please let me know if you know anything else!
Yes, depending on the design of the guitar there may be some slight intentional rotation of the top that will occur in the first couple of years. Meaning that the area of the top behind the bridge and under the bridge might pull up and rotate very slightly due to the tension of the strings. It will then stabilize. You will see this rotation to some degree on every old Martin (although I doubt that it was intentional in those old guitars!).
In areas where the temperature changes a bunch over the course of the year, and especially in areas where winters get particularly cold and dry, the action on a guitar can change drastically as the wood either contracts (with dryness) or expands (with humidity). If I’m touring with a guitar with a removable saddle, I’ll generally have a ”winter” saddle and a “summer” saddle.
I actually had to change out the saddle on the Collings that I was playing on this just-finished Punch Brothers European tour one week in. The action got too high and I was really struggling. I put the lower saddle in. By the end of the tour last night the guitar was starting to buzz. If we’d had another gig I would have put the original saddle back in!
Can't wait to hear! My guitar is really starting to open up now after two years, so you have a lot to look forward too :) takes some adjustments at guitar repair the first years though, but I guess that is the price for quality pieces of wood.
Thanks for the kind words and advices on my earlier videos. I've challenged myself with another one of your solos here. It's really difficult to keep rythm with so many notes, I struggled a bit with keeping it steady especially between part A and part B.
Also useful for me to use this as an introduction to the pentatonic scale (I'm one of the few who have never learned this before). Thanks for this input!
BRAVO! Sounds great, Torgeir! I could really feel the good natured spirit of the music coming through.Â
The groove seemed to suffer a bit when you went to the lower strings on the B part. Give some attention to making sure that your physical mechanics are as reliable on the low strings as they are on the high strings. One good way to practice this would be to learn the whole A part solo, but down an octave on the low strings. Then play it and the B part together, focusing on the groove the whole time.Â
Hi Chris!
Really nice tune this! I screwed up a bit at the end, but I guess that is the honest version of how I play. I thought the disscussion of 'finishing' songs a 100 percent (in another thread) was point on for many of us! 🙂
Hi again Chris!
Nice challenge going up the neck. Tried to maintain a good tempo on this one. Feedback and advices for future practice is much appreciated.
Torgeir
Nice singing voice!
Thanks, Kip 🙂
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Really cool Torgeir ...
Thanks, Kip 🙂
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Here's my attempt, I appreciate if you have some feedback on the video 🙂 Torgeir
Hey Torgeir! Sweet singing on here! It seems that the beginning of the video may be slightly cut off (?) but even so it sounds like you are cutting a beat or two off of the phrase lengths. Take a look at how I'm doing the intro again, particularly the timing of when the chords are changing. That said, your flow on those parts in terms of how you are playing the guitar and the groove is really nice!
One other thing to mention, under your singing try strumming the back beats a little less. Listen to Tony in particular for this - he is SUCH A MASTER at rhythm guitar and accompanying himself. The main point is that he is hitting the bass notes and occasionally strumming in between, but he often plays little crosspicked fills instead of the strum. It's a nuanced thing, but it might give the sound a bit of variety.Â
Happy new year!
Agreed!
Check out carter-style, where you strum lightly on the brightest (maybe two, three our four of them, I'm not sure what is the ''right way'), between the melody/flatpicking. Seems like a good way' for you since you got the melody good! Left hand doing exactly the same.
TorgeirÂ
Torgeir
Torgeir, cool hearing your take on this song! You're playing some of the chords a little differently than I do, but it all sounds good and musical. The spot that stuck out to me the most was when your solo started. At that moment the song lost a bit of momentum. I really liked the composition of the solo and all of the notes and melodies that you chose, but make sure that the forward momentum and energy that you have when you are playing rhythm and singing doesn't get fall too far behind.Â
Keep it up!
Thanks so much for these lessons, really cool learning about arpeggios! This is my try on jessamyn's reel, a lovely tune (congratulations on the grammy also). Realize this needs some more practize to be finished, some of the parts are challenging. Looking forward to it though!
TorgeirÂ
This really sounds good and musical Torgeir, keep working on it!
I don't know if this is relevant, but do you notice that your index finger is all the way up on your sixht string? Maybe if you place your index on your bass notes (b and c# instead of f# and g#), the strecht becomes easier? Maybe this is wrong, but it's a suggestion :)
Torgeir
Your crosspicking sounds amazing!
Thank you Bryn and Enslah!
Here is banks of ohio, thanks for a beautiful crosspicking arrangement.
Torgeir
Beautiful, Torgeir! That guitar of yours keep sounding better and better! Happy new year!Â
Totally agree with Enslah here...beautifully played, and that guitar of yours has wonderful tone!
Thank you Bryn and Enslah!
Beautiful! Sounding absolutely beautiful Torgeir! đź‘Ź
Beaufitul picking Torgeir!
Nice!Â
Hi Dan!
I'm not very good at questions about guitar repair. So I can only qoute what has been Said to me. If anybody has the knowledge, please correct me! And excuse my english.
1) My guitar is all made of wood (cheaper guitars often have parts which is not). Wood is alive material and will move alot, especially the first years. The wood is not used to being guitar shaped, and needs some time to stabilaze. The action (string height) on my guitar got waay higher after a year or so.
Â
2) norway has got cold winters, which means the air inside our houses will become dry because we heat it up. The difference between summer and winter is huge. I use humidifier from october till may and exhange between summer and winter saddle (I think that's the name). Had to make a right saddle for my guitar based on how it reacts on summer vs winter air.
Â
Correct if that doesn't make sense at all. Based on what I have been told I Hope it Will be more stabile when the wood it's used to the climate and to actually be a guitar. Interesting topic, please let me know if you know anything else!
Torgeir
Hi Dan and Torgeir,Â
Yes, depending on the design of the guitar there may be some slight intentional rotation of the top that will occur in the first couple of years. Meaning that the area of the top behind the bridge and under the bridge might pull up and rotate very slightly due to the tension of the strings. It will then stabilize. You will see this rotation to some degree on every old Martin (although I doubt that it was intentional in those old guitars!).
In areas where the temperature changes a bunch over the course of the year, and especially in areas where winters get particularly cold and dry, the action on a guitar can change drastically as the wood either contracts (with dryness) or expands (with humidity). If I’m touring with a guitar with a removable saddle, I’ll generally have a ”winter” saddle and a “summer” saddle.
I actually had to change out the saddle on the Collings that I was playing on this just-finished Punch Brothers European tour one week in. The action got too high and I was really struggling. I put the lower saddle in. By the end of the tour last night the guitar was starting to buzz. If we’d had another gig I would have put the original saddle back in!
Wow, that sounds really good!
Can't wait to hear! My guitar is really starting to open up now after two years, so you have a lot to look forward too :) takes some adjustments at guitar repair the first years though, but I guess that is the price for quality pieces of wood.
Trondheim here!
Hi Torgeir. I'm curious - what was the reasons for the adjustment on your Strand? Seems weird to me that you need an adjustment on a brand new guitar
Hi Chris!
Thanks for the kind words and advices on my earlier videos. I've challenged myself with another one of your solos here. It's really difficult to keep rythm with so many notes, I struggled a bit with keeping it steady especially between part A and part B.
Also useful for me to use this as an introduction to the pentatonic scale (I'm one of the few who have never learned this before). Thanks for this input!
BRAVO! Sounds great, Torgeir! I could really feel the good natured spirit of the music coming through.Â
The groove seemed to suffer a bit when you went to the lower strings on the B part. Give some attention to making sure that your physical mechanics are as reliable on the low strings as they are on the high strings. One good way to practice this would be to learn the whole A part solo, but down an octave on the low strings. Then play it and the B part together, focusing on the groove the whole time.Â
Really good crosspicking and solo!
Welcome, good to see that we are two Norwegians on this site!